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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > Europa Universalis IV: Buying all the DLC is just Common Sense
| I've been thinking of taking advantage of the sale to finally buy this game, but I can't really figure out a lot of things about it, How different is it from EU3? Also, I can't make heads or tails out of the whole DLC situation, I was going to get the "Extreme Edition" until I realized all it has a unit pack and a music pack and two other DLCs that aren't really explained anywhere on the store page, and there are some important-looking DLCs like Mare Nostrum, Cossacks, and American Dream that aren't in the thread OP. |
| #¿Nov 28, 2016 19:54 |
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| #¿Sep 27, 2024 21:20 |
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| Thanks for the help. I guess now the only question I have left is whether Steam will have a better sale come winter. But I guess that's more the rational part of my brain that wants to save money and not have another timesink videogame. |
| #¿Nov 28, 2016 21:57 |
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| Whelp, for better or for worse, I got the game. I've been playing as Castille, and I've been having some problems there. I thought I'd switch things up by doing some slice-by-slice conquest of Aragon while doing a royal marriage and being best buds to the end with Portugal, but I wound up only taking one province in one war before an event fired off that automatically put us in a personal union. There was some time wasted. After that, I did a nice little reconquista of Granada, and pulled a huge scheme to get enough prestige to seize the throne of Navarra when things went cockeyed at the last moment and I wound up doing things the hard way. And now, I don't really know what to do. I need to accumulate legitimacy to form Spain, but that's slow going. I wrestled for a while trying to repay my loans and get some positive cash flow going (I screwed up a lot of things towards the beginning), but I guess that was fretting over mostly nothing. There's no opportunities that present themselves. One of the missions the game offered me was to take some Italian provinces, but apparently I can't fabricate claims on places that aren't my neighbor, and it didn't give me any casus beli to help, so I'm not sure what the game's playing at there. I don't want to go backstab Portugal after all the work I've put into our alliance. Colonization is a dead end for now, because there's nothing close enough to send settlers to, and sending explorers and conquistadors out just for them to die eventually isn't helping me at all. So what is there for me to do other than wait for my legitimacy to tick up? |
| #¿Nov 30, 2016 03:58 |
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| I've finally got a viable game going, and I made it up to the point where I can get my first idea, and I have no idea what out of the many, many options to go for. Any advice? For some background, I'm doing a game as Austria, and I've made my long-term goal so far to be making sure Italy stays in imperial hands, and I may have been a bit too quick to annex Venice's continental holdings. I get that there's some aggressive expansion modifier, but I have no idea where you go to look at it or figure out how to pace yourself. So far as I can tell Romagna's the last province I need to grab, and I've still got 20 years to get that done. There's been a big ol' coalition formed against me that I need to watch out for, and Bavaria seems stronger than I'd like. Also I may have panicked a bit too much about not having a ready heir and declared a daughter to be my successor, which I eventually figured out was the reason why every elector has -1000+ opinion of me, but it turns out there's a decision I'll be able to make to rectify that eventually. It did feel briefly liberating to not have to worry about electors for a while. |
| #¿Apr 12, 2017 07:12 |
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| It's so disconcerting when the game throws massive territorial gains at me out of nowhere without any planning or forethought on my part. It makes me feel really stupid and not in control of anything. First there was somehow inheriting the Netherlands after the decay of Burgandy, and now I somehow fell into a personal union with England. The worst thing about it all is that it somehow catapulted me into a war with France (a war of succession?), and just after I washed my hands of helping England in their last war with France, too. My army's been at full maintenance for a year or so, and I was only just feeling like I might be able to handle a quick war over an insult with what's left of Venice. I don't have what it takes to confront France directly, the only reason it seemed plausible before was because England had Castille helping it. Now I just have Switzerland and Bohemia to help me, and neither of them have any direction to them. I can't even penetrate into the country with all those forts, my only idea for what to do is burning the countryside wherever I go. And all this because of some random toss of the dice, while my claims all over Bavaria and Milan gather dust, and my mission to become papal controller has been worthless. |
| #¿Apr 13, 2017 07:26 |
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| God, being doubleteamed by an alliance of France and the Ottomans suuuuuuucks. |
| #¿Apr 14, 2017 18:57 |
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| What's the deal with states v. territories? I know that you get extra income from states, but I'm not sure what else. Should I keep states close to the core of the country, or should I stick them out on the border to get ready for future expansion? Or should I just make wealthy provinces states and demote the poorer ones to territories? And do I want to always be using my full state limit? I'm also poking around with the idea of claims lately, and I'm not sure how exactly they work. Can you only really get aggressive expansion reduction reduction from a single claim that you're pressing as the war goal in the war declaration screen, or is the claim just an excuse to get into a war with a conquest CB and basically full prices for everything, with much less reason to get multiple clumps of claims to push? And do claims not matter when you're using a different CB from conquest? I just got through with a war with Milan with the excommunicated ruler CB, and I'm not sure I'm getting any less AE with the two provinces I fabricated claims on than with one that I didn't claim, and I'm too lazy to go back and redo the war with a conquest CB to check if that's a better deal. I was also using the war as an opportunity to crush Milan's various uppity allies within the HRE and split them up into nations that'll be alternatively less of a threat to my hegemony and grateful for being given independence, and that may have skewed my results. |
| #¿Apr 16, 2017 21:31 |
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| I still don't really get Aggressive Expansion, is there any way to see how much you have outside of the opinion modifiers with other countries? It's hard for me to minimize it without knowing how much I have already. Of course, I willingly invited a big chunk of AE this time by taking a big ol' bite out of the Papal State, because I'm rushing the Rein in Northern Italy decision and I don't want to have to wait for another choice opportunity further down the line. Better to take the hit while I can. One of my bright ideas for handling it was releasing Urbino as a vassal, and then handing off my other gains from the Papal State to them, but I'm not sure if that really does anything? Also it's pretty critical that I be able to still fabricate a claim on the one Naples province, and I'm not sure if I can do that if it only borders my vassal. |
| #¿Apr 20, 2017 22:27 |
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| I was beelining Rein in Northern Italy, and after getting it, I found myself without any real direction. None of my rivals are really in a situation now where fighting them really holds any value to me, but I don't have the diplomatic points to burn on swapping all of them out. Is it worth just stomping over the weakest one (Venice) and taking bites out of it until it no longer qualifies? Also, am I right in thinking that I should be doing my best to keep the rest of the HRE sliced up into as many pieces as possible to get some kind of authority bonus from number of states, as well as making it easier to expand? |
| #¿Apr 24, 2017 00:03 |
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| #¿Sep 27, 2024 21:20 |
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| Didn't EU3 screw up China with a DLC as well? |
| #¿Jun 4, 2017 03:42 |
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